Evil Is Sexy Forum need help

I'm trying to think of a way I can make a story about an evil(likable and clever) person with evil goals who gets his way without becoming good or overpowered. (Though I soon will write about a true hero, but it twists so that the real story is that he is the bad guy from the other point of view, or the real view. Heh heh)

 

So, could somebody give me some ideas or examples?

Lol. Erm, slightly complicated. Of course, what you're asking for can easily be done, but it won't be very realistic, because for a long time poeple have shown that evil never wins, whether it's at world domination, or for personal goals. So, it will be difficult to go against a plot that has been used for centuries. :P

I suggest you analyse Blackadder, which I'm sure you've heard of. He's the only fictional character I can think of that actually gets what he wants by being bad. Even if he dies a horrible death at the end of each season, at least he gets a few seconds of triumph once in a while.

I think using a murderer would be one way to do it. Serial killers, not matter how cool they are, in any movie or book, are always caught. So just let him get away with it? (yes, Dexter gets away with it, but whenever I think about serial killers now I think of the guy from Watcher....awesome movie, I wish he got away with it.)
Also, you could do world domination, except that the Emperor form Star Wars won in the first three episodes, then loses in the second.....so yeah.
But really, how evil do you want you character to be??
For instance, I am writing a story about two stalkers....and most people think Stalkers are really evil...but my stalkers are just a little confused about love....
So pick how evil, or what kind of evil you want you character to be, and go from there. Here is a little list of evil people.
Killers
Serial Killers
Thieves
Rapist
Dictators
Military Dictators
Religious Fanatics
Stalkers
Pathological Lairs (well, kinda)
Con Men
Monsters (Vampires, Werewolves, ect) ((personally, I would love a story where someone falls in love with a vampire that actually eats and kills people......none of this good vampire bull))
Kidnappers
Sadist (if they go to far)
Criminal Masterminds (ei, the Joker)
People trying to take over the World.


Does that help any??

Thank you, it really does help for the ideas. And because it's so impossible is why I wanted to succeed at it =P. I have read part of your Stalker Journals by the way.

Oh and preferably a criminal mastermind, or something around that, because they typically do it because it's exciting, not psychopathic. And he'd have to be clever and entertaining, because I hate villians who are just bad with no...humor or likable traits. 0.o Strange I know; my evil villians have to be likable just as much as any hero.

Like one of my favorite movies of all time is Ocean's 11, where this guy decides to rob a casino to 1: steal the money, 2: steal back his wife, and 3: simply accomplish the impossible. And he succeeds.  That's the part I struggle at. The end. Because good not winning is most of the time so unsatisfactory to readers, how do I twist it to be satisfactory? (And that's what I should have asked from the beginning)

All you have to do is make the characters so likeable, and give them a good reason for being bad, evil, criminal, whatever. Then, if they don't win, the readers will get mad at you. If you have never seen the movie Watcher, you should go watch it. I desperately wanted the murderer to win (but thats just me, not how he was shown) and when he didn't I got so mad I wanted to go and talk to the screenplay writer, and have some words. But, alas, that didn't happen. In Ocean's Eleven, we wan the theives to win, we like them, we enjoy their bravado in trying to rob a casino in Vegas....so just make your characters and story good enough for the readers to feel the same.

Robbers/ murderers with heart always leave you wanting them to win ie. Bonnie and Clyde, John Dillinger, you know they die in the end but at the same time you want them win to get away with it instead.