Well said. Great write and I can totally relate having been on the other side of the Narcissists mental games of hide and seek. Manipulation at the very best. I love the style, it grabs the reader and allows you to feel as you move through the poem. Nice job!
It's an autobiographical poem.... I apologize on behalf of all the horrible narcissists you've enco.. read moreIt's an autobiographical poem.... I apologize on behalf of all the horrible narcissists you've encountered. They are a good time from time to time though, in small doses. A little bit goes a long way.
8 Years Ago
1 was enough. I'm sure I have encountered more in the world but living with 1 was plenty. I am fre.. read more1 was enough. I'm sure I have encountered more in the world but living with 1 was plenty. I am free of the craziness! I will read more of your poetry, I do like your style :)
2 Years Ago
Oh dear - two science nerds - and me - too funny 😂
Davidgeo,
Having had a multiyear relationship with an intelligent, interesting, desirable narcissist, I have nothing to add, I don't think you missed anything. I still love her but have no desire to look upon her ever again.
They never learn.
Vol
Posted 2 Months Ago
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2 Months Ago
You sound like how all my ex partners feel about me. Some bpd people can worse than others though,.. read moreYou sound like how all my ex partners feel about me. Some bpd people can worse than others though, some never become even a little self aware and it's very sad for everyone involved. Usually substance abuse becomes a factor eventually if it wasn't already. It's a shame a lot of these types of illness are stigmatized or even enabled because no one wants to deal with or acknowledge the root of the dysfunction, which is usually almost forgotten or highly distorted traumatic memories that are too repressed to really talk about anyway... a recent trend in psychotherapy is the clinical use of psychedelic mushrooms. I think everyone should do more drugs anyway.
"Madness masking more madness," and "In an emotional waiting room, Preparing for an appointment, That was never made, Not for you anyway," is incredibly profound.
This piece struck me. I’m dealing with this personally, and your poem was very insightful.
Posted 2 Months Ago
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2 Months Ago
I'm glad you enjoyed it, or found it interesting at least, enjoy isn't really the word for it I gues.. read moreI'm glad you enjoyed it, or found it interesting at least, enjoy isn't really the word for it I guess. If you need any advice on how to deal with these people let me know, I am very intimate with several and one in particular.
May thosse that have been targeted, tied down, realreased, and caught again finally be freed from the narcissists that leave indents in our souls so visible, almost like the hair ties we wear on our wrists, finally be cut loose and freed...
Posted 3 Months Ago
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3 Months Ago
I'm one of these people. Or was. We can recover you know, we can come back. Don't stigmatize all .. read moreI'm one of these people. Or was. We can recover you know, we can come back. Don't stigmatize all of us. Sometimes we all just need a little love unconditionally. (but not for long, the capacity for evil in us is great... never gives us too many chances)
Just had to read another one of yours...
And once again
Disturbing..but again that is probably a good thing.
There were several lines that really worked.
Preparing for an appointment that was never made...
I see you requested a friend with me..and I replied.. but i do not see that you have read any if mine.
The one I think you might like is Screams..this I wrote when I was quite young..in 1970
Lisa
hey you - did I mention I was fired from my job? so now I don't have to see my narcissistic mutha f****r of a manipulative boss whois also a tad psychotic who never had his eyes on the game but did venture to be waylaid by my other two bosses - actually what a release, that guy was the puppeteer and all of his staff the puppets he did not value those who actually 'thought for themselves' I mean heaven forbid - thinking !!!! well as you know I was never at the end of anyone's string .....
as I read this proem I thought of you ... and you ain't bad ... like me you live in the extremities ... you have yours and, I have mine. Hard paths to travel, but I must say well worth it I think once we finally understand the true reality of our beings.
What's on the other side of those black holes - ??? A choose your own adventure new form and all?? I hope so.
Posted 2 Years Ago
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2 Years Ago
Another universe just like ours is on the other side of those black holes. Existence is a series of.. read moreAnother universe just like ours is on the other side of those black holes. Existence is a series of black holes consuming and regurgitating each other at different rates making for different fundamental rules of nature on the other side... where that started from, is...
I'm not suprised you were fired. To be honest, even though you liked your job, I think this will be better for you eventually. It sounded like you worked for not exactly the best people there.
And yes, I am not a good person; which is not the same as being a bad person. You can always get the fundamental truth out of me eventually; truly bad people hide that even from themselves.
2 Years Ago
So let me reply as a physicist to TK Little's reply about what's on the other side of those blackhol.. read moreSo let me reply as a physicist to TK Little's reply about what's on the other side of those blackholes. First we're talking about black holes, not white holes, which, if they exist, are a different thing. Inside the event horizon there is just normal space and nothing special with the exception of the singularity at the center, which according to quantum mechanics can't exist. So we really don't know what that is, but we are certainly no longer attached to the Universe on the other side. According to the view of people outside of the event horizon we didn't even pass through it since that would take an infinite amount of time. Nevertheless from our point of view we did, but now the outside Universe is gone. What happens when we reach the singularity, well, we'll be killed, of course. We only need General Relativity to answer that. What happens to the matter that composed our body? Well that we don't know since we need a quantum theory of gravity to answer that question. Would we get a new Universe with different laws of nature? That's unlikely since we'd still be in a 3d space and 1d time Universe, so truly different laws seem unlikely. Such Universe are more likely to arise spontaneously rather than being born from our Universe, at least from string theory there's doesn't seem to be an obvious way to do that. But heck, we don't know everything, and we certainly know very little about this,
2 Years Ago
Thanks for your reply to TK’s reply and fear not this was not a question of ‘what’s actually t.. read moreThanks for your reply to TK’s reply and fear not this was not a question of ‘what’s actually there’ I have had many conversations with my science minded father about this many times over the years, as well as TK - he knows my whimsical brain that knows I believe in the simple complicity of the Inherant wisdoms. This makes sense to me in many layers - it’s just all within us.
And dead at singularity or not doesn’t matter when we are all part of the whole vibrant thing :-)
Thanks for you time and words
2 Years Ago
TK - yes you are absolutely right about my worlplace and thanks for the confirmation.
.. read moreTK - yes you are absolutely right about my worlplace and thanks for the confirmation.
I am currently excited about a new project.
Got any spare cash for me?
Seriously thought it’s great to be totally inspired again for the right reasons.
You know me too well.
And you are not bad - I know you too remember ☺️
2 Years Ago
I wasn't being totally serious there Rick. I think that's implied given the context. You're a phys.. read moreI wasn't being totally serious there Rick. I think that's implied given the context. You're a physicist eh? Where'd you go to school? BS MS or PhD?
2 Years Ago
You'll be fine Liz. It's important not to change your goals even when your immediate plans take a s.. read moreYou'll be fine Liz. It's important not to change your goals even when your immediate plans take a s**t on you. (which is way, way harder than it sounds)
Most people, when they fall, just learn how to crawl instead of walk again. I don't expect you to be one of those people.
2 Years Ago
Well of course not. And thanks for your confidence. It really is gonna be awesome doing something ne.. read moreWell of course not. And thanks for your confidence. It really is gonna be awesome doing something new again - and heck I even have time for bad poetry which makes everything seem in balance.
2 Years Ago
New things are the air fresheners of the soul. But there is no balance for humans to emerge from. T.. read moreNew things are the air fresheners of the soul. But there is no balance for humans to emerge from. That doesn't exist for living things as we know them. You were born to die, you and I and everyone else were actually born dying to begin with... such is life. The moment it starts is the moment it starts ending. I suppose it's important how you look at time, how you use time. An ant only lives for a few days but gets exponentially way more done relatively speaking.
2 Years Ago
Thanks, all. And I didm't for a minute think people were talking seriously about black holes, etc. .. read moreThanks, all. And I didm't for a minute think people were talking seriously about black holes, etc. This is just an area on which I can comment. To answer TK's questions, I went to UCSD and have a PhD in astrophysics. I am semi retired, but I still have a position at UCSD's Center for Astrophysics and Space Science. I do a whole assortment of different science. I was trained as an infrared instrument builder and I built one of the first 5 instruments for the 10 meter Keck telescope in Mauna Kea, HI, at that time the world's largest telescope, I also build instruments for high-altitude aircraft, and I've done observations from gamma-rays, X-rays, UV, optical, infrared, and radio wavelengths. I am also a noted theorist, having worked on radiative transfer, and active galaxies and quasars. Probably my most influential work, however, is in inverse problems through the development of my patented Pixon method of image reconstruction. Because of this work I as asked to review the entire field for the Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, and my image reconstruction methods are used in several satellites and through by businesses, they've been used for enhanced imagery for the US Missile Defense Agency, submarine periscopes, Navy solar satellites, border patrol surveillance. and resolution enhancement in electron and normal light microscopes. So as you can see, I've had lots and lots of fun.
2 Years Ago
Really Rick? Not for a minute? Don't insult me.
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2 Years Ago
.... soooo... what kind of physicist did you say you were? How long did you go to school?
2 Years Ago
(you're talking to a legit chemE by the way)
2 Years Ago
You wouldn't happen to be just, copy and pasting s**t to seem more competent in a subject than you a.. read moreYou wouldn't happen to be just, copy and pasting s**t to seem more competent in a subject than you actually are would you?
2 Years Ago
I wanna ask you questions but I know you can just google them....
2 Years Ago
Where do you work RIck?
2 Years Ago
I did my thing in the military. My creds are from Northern Illinois University and then University .. read moreI did my thing in the military. My creds are from Northern Illinois University and then University of Illinois in Champaign. Where did you say you went to school again? And for how long?
2 Years Ago
Aww... he went offline... go f****n' figure.
2 Years Ago
Liz.... you and your dad would've got along, Even from across the world. There's this thing called.. read moreLiz.... you and your dad would've got along, Even from across the world. There's this thing called Euler's Number, Engineers and mathematician's ALL know what I'm... Rick is just googling s**t.
2 Years Ago
Me and my dad get along great guns just like you and I. I have no idea what Euler's Number is ... read moreMe and my dad get along great guns just like you and I. I have no idea what Euler's Number is ...
I miss your banter - you are exceptionally good at entertaining me ...
I am off out for the evening - Catch you soon X
2 Years Ago
whenever you see E .... it's 2.71828(plus some digits). It's the base for logarithmic exercise.. read morewhenever you see E .... it's 2.71828(plus some digits). It's the base for logarithmic exercise. It's an integer so ingrained in every field that pretty much every scientist of any worth knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about immediately.
2 Years Ago
I have a feeling Rick is not a scientist.... but a googler.
2 Years Ago
Oh ye of little faith. Have a look at this: https://www.cass.ucsd.edu/index.php/faculty:Rpuetter.
2 Years Ago
Also look at Researchgate they list me as having 359 professional publications and in the top 2.5% o.. read moreAlso look at Researchgate they list me as having 359 professional publications and in the top 2.5% of world ranked scientists.
2 Years Ago
Oh yeah, I mentioned my companies. my most current company is Pixon Imaging at http://www.pixonimag.. read moreOh yeah, I mentioned my companies. my most current company is Pixon Imaging at http://www.pixonimaging.com
2 Years Ago
So I guess I am a real scientist, and I've done all of the things I've claimed above. I'm not just .. read moreSo I guess I am a real scientist, and I've done all of the things I've claimed above. I'm not just a "Googler".
2 Years Ago
And you've asked me not to insult you. I don't know why I shouldn't. You certainly insulted me eve.. read moreAnd you've asked me not to insult you. I don't know why I shouldn't. You certainly insulted me even though it would have been really easy to check up on my claims. You all me you are a legit ChemE. Really? Where did you work? I can't find you on LinkedIn. And how many journal article have you written? I can't find any evidence of any. Are you sure you're not just a Googler??
2 Years Ago
And since you apparently didn't read my post where I gave all my credentials before you started writ.. read moreAnd since you apparently didn't read my post where I gave all my credentials before you started writing all your commentary on me, I will list it here again: Thanks, all. And I didm't for a minute think people were talking seriously about black holes, etc. This is just an area on which I can comment. To answer TK's questions, I went to UCSD and have a PhD in astrophysics. I am semi retired, but I still have a position at UCSD's Center for Astrophysics and Space Science. I do a whole assortment of different science. I was trained as an infrared instrument builder and I built one of the first 5 instruments for the 10 meter Keck telescope in Mauna Kea, HI, at that time the world's largest telescope, I also build instruments for high-altitude aircraft, and I've done observations from gamma-rays, X-rays, UV, optical, infrared, and radio wavelengths. I am also a noted theorist, having worked on radiative transfer, and active galaxies and quasars. Probably my most influential work, however, is in inverse problems through the development of my patented Pixon method of image reconstruction. Because of this work I as asked to review the entire field for the Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, and my image reconstruction methods are used in several satellites and through by businesses, they've been used for enhanced imagery for the US Missile Defense Agency, submarine periscopes, Navy solar satellites, border patrol surveillance. and resolution enhancement in electron and normal light microscopes. So as you can see, I've had lots and lots of fun.
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2 Years Ago
Okay, and I notice my UCSD link seems to be broken. Anyway, try this https://cass.ucsd.edu/index.ph.. read moreOkay, and I notice my UCSD link seems to be broken. Anyway, try this https://cass.ucsd.edu/index.php/faculty:Rpuetter
Rick. My friend... don't fall for my bait. I'm just an educated troll. Whether I believe you or no.. read moreRick. My friend... don't fall for my bait. I'm just an educated troll. Whether I believe you or not needs to be irrelevant to you.
2 Years Ago
... but I respect this effort of yours. You have my respect sir. (mostly)
2 Years Ago
I already knew your credentials before I asked. That's not how I do this. Well done for not gettin.. read moreI already knew your credentials before I asked. That's not how I do this. Well done for not getting shallow angry and just telling me to f**k off.
Now that was an interesting read. And you don't make (n my humble opinion) the common mistakes of those that write free verse here on WC. You don't break thoughts across lines. You use whole phrases. If you write a single line, it stands alone. Subsequent line might add, but your single, stand-alone lines, stand-alone signally. I don't know how many others I criticized for this fault, but you don't make this mistake. Now as to content, I think that is especially relevant, too. Especially today. I sometimes write in free verse, but that is not my central-feel-good spot. If you want to see some of my free-verse, see "I am Penthos". If you'd like to see the center of my sweet spot, see "Wakjakaga's River Race". This was an outstanding poem. Highest marks!
Posted 2 Years Ago
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2 Years Ago
A compliment wrapped in an advertisement... d********g.
2 Years Ago
So sorry. I enjoyed your work. I thought you might like to see my writing, so I made some suggesti.. read moreSo sorry. I enjoyed your work. I thought you might like to see my writing, so I made some suggestions. There is no obligation, and I will still really like your poem, and I will like your poem whether or not you like mine. Sorry that I seemed to hit a nerve. My apologies.
2 Years Ago
I'm just bustin' your balls. It's not that serious. A lot is lost in translation.
2 Years Ago
I don't know quite how to take this, Dave. I seemed to touch a button or something. Anyway, don't .. read moreI don't know quite how to take this, Dave. I seemed to touch a button or something. Anyway, don't worry. I have a very thick skin. It's just I was surprised by the response. No worries.
While reading very keen words it unfolds powerful emotions for example line "Distorted fully to experience zero reality." That line got me for some reason but keep writing Sincerely your friend in writing and life.
whew, really brought suppressed thoughts to the foreground. I've known this kind of person... had the most beautiful smile I had ever seen, and she used it as a dagger and band aid. Ah, the times when self destruction felt right. Believe it or not, many of us cling to this, masochistically of course. After all, attention is attention. Even when you know its only given for selfish benefit. Powerful write.
Posted 3 Years Ago
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3 Years Ago
Attention is a strange thing. No one really interprets it right. I wrote this about 5 years ago an.. read moreAttention is a strange thing. No one really interprets it right. I wrote this about 5 years ago and I haven't gotten better at writing things. I think maybe the point is... mind and body strong grasshopper.