Election

Did you choose Him or did He choose You?

You are not the Author of Sin.
You showcase the uncleanness of men.
You put a spotlight on the prison of treason.
You make a distinction between Egyptians and Free Men.

You are not a man that You should lie.
You are not a son of man that has a mind divided.
You multiply Your wonders through the hardened heart of a Pharaoh whose pride couldn’t let him see past the blunders.
You add not to our transgressions as Pontius Pilot saw no reason to stir up the violence.
You subtract those who see Your presence as a mirror and not a lens of Your Reflection.

They did not intend it for the good, but God used it to reveal His Personhood.
Satan offering false accusations towards a dead man from a different nation.
Joseph forgotten by the cupbearer of the king but God always saw him as His own Nazarene.
Free Barrabbus from sin so the Lamb can unlock what’s within.

Divine infatuation.
Repulsed by sin’s saturation.
Condensed by human limitations.
Eclipsed by The Son’s liberation.

Maybe the transgressions are another reminder of the lessons you need to start professing.
Maybe the depravity helps to see the gravity of The Battery God has given us to overcome the Sadducees.
If they don’t believe in the resurrection then maybe the Pharisees were meant to help correct our confession.
Working my salvation out with fear and trembling as I consider all those Seraphim assembling.

How providential that you’ve been made new with His initials.
His essentials of the good works He planned in advance with no issues.
If 7000 never found it consequential to bow the knee to Baal then maybe it’s time to get monumental and walk a mile in His shoes.
Predestined before the creation of the human race to be a reflection of His grace.

“So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.
And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were,
grace would no longer be grace.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭11:5-6‬ ‭

“What shall we say, then?
Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
BY NO MEANS!
We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a NEW life.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:1-4‬ ‭

Author's Note

Everyone has criticisms and misconceptions about this topic so I decided to chime in.

Reviews

[Ase]

i feel like this poem is judging me and i kind of want to fight this poem in a back alley or something....

[Apollos]

Very interesting.

How did you feel about the part that said “you’ve been made new with His initials?”

[wordman]

after i got saved i still sinned,,we do it daily
got to run see you later

[wordman]

we are sin,we was born into sin,it`s just part of the plan

[Apollos]

The beginning of The Plan. You WERE a Sinner and now have been saved by His grace.

Have you accepted your rightful place in The Family as a Son who no longer has to identify as a Sinner?

[wordman]

we sin daily,do we need to repent daily

[Apollos]

What does that last scripture I posted, Romans 6:1-4, say?

[wordman]

well i don`t believe once saved always saved
we die daily,i think it`s pretty much whats in your heart

[wordman]

and if we die in sin,then we die daily

[Apollos]

But to answer your original question, yes we need to repent if we realize we’ve been sinning.

[wordman]

you need to read the history of the world,plato and josephus,many stories of the flood,joseph,adam and eve,noah and so on,several jesus or christ stories 2500 years before jesus,i think at least 20,and they are proven facts,,horase the son of god 2500 years ago,it is written in the clay tablets and on the walls of houses,the flood about 15 stories...something to think about who created sin

[Apollos]

I have read or heard about pretty much everything you just listed. I’m working on getting my teaching certification to be a High School History teacher so I plan on devoting the rest of my life to understanding the history of the world.

I’ve pretty explicitly laid out who I think created sin in this poem.
Who do you think created sin?

[wordman]

god created sin,and he meant to

[wordman]

i have been a christian since 9 years old,,i took every thing that i read as truth,,but after studding history i`m not sure about any thing,,a preacher will tell you it`s satan changing things but i don`t believe that,,we know what somebody told us

[wordman]

i have listened to god talk to me 3 times in an audible voice,but he didn't say this is i am

[wordman]

did satan out smart god and make him kill jesus on the cross to fix it,i doub`t it then why

[wordman]

https://youtu.be/tgPNfhpaPrU?t=432

[Apollos]

What 3 things did God tell in the times He spoke to you in an audible voice?

What was the purpose of Jesus’ death on a cross then?

[Apollos]

But you do realize the video you sent was exactly what my poem is about?

[Apollos]

This video could clear some concepts up for you: https://youtu.be/ws7EAfoKQEI

[wordman]

jesus died on the cross because we was born into sin,we are sin,he had to cover that with his blood,and i know the video agreed with your poem,the only difference is we have no free will,only choices and if we chose wrong we suffer,he holds it over our heads

[wordman]

try urantia book and kolbrin bible

[wordman]

he was correcting me all 3 times with a very kind voice,never elevated,steady and serene

[Apollos]

I’m in agreement with you that Jesus died to cover our sin with His blood.

So how does that make you feel that “if we choose wrong, we suffer, and He holds it over heads?

[wordman]

my friend,don`t get me wrong but if you don`t follow jesus you are doomed,and why did he have to die for our sins is because we was born into sin,our nature is sin here's a cake on the table if you eat it you will be punished,,god created sin in the first place,,why,to give you a choice and to entice you,sin and pay

[wordman]

and no we don`t need to repent daily,the bible says if you believe that jesus died on the cross and was risen you are saved

[wordman]

to sum it up,you are a follower of god or he will put you in hell,,you know free will

[Apollos]

So do you think God enjoys enticing humans to sin so that He can punish them?

[Apollos]

You validate every Atheist’s view when you say God “puts” people into
Hell. I believe the doors to Hell are locked from the inside.

What are you thoughts on this passage?

“When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.”
For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.
Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.”
‭‭James‬ ‭1:13-15‬

[wordman]

well not exactly,but if you sin you pay for it..he created it,he made the rules,he calls the shots..

[wordman]

well do we know who wrote that ? can we prove it ? then who tempted you,who created lucifer ,and why,he knew what lucifers goal was

[wordman]

and no i`m not atheist,just down to earth

[Apollos]

Bro...I didn’t say you were an Atheist. I said you validate their way of thinking when you classify God in such a way.

How can we even have a conversation about the Christian God if you’re not willing to discuss the Christian scriptures?

[wordman]

which part did i leave off
god created angels and man
he have them free will
what is free will,you chose,chose what good or evil
chose god go to heaven,chose evil go to hell
i think god created sin long before he created lucifer
this is all in the bible,,and your scripture that people blame god,of course they do,he is the father of it
the bible wrote two thousand years ago states that lucifer and the one third angels will burn in hell,he new this long ago,did he offer them anything else,,no
why did god put the tree of good and evil in eden if not to entise adam and eve

[wordman]

he put job through hell on a bet with lucifer
he never recovered

[Apollos]

What do you mean “he never recovered”?

[wordman]

he didn`t get his family back until he died

[Apollos]

Fair enough

[Apollos]

Do you think God is good?

[wordman]

let me think on it for a while
well i see you are from the same town as buddy holly

[wordman]

i guess it`s like blind faith,we read the bible but we don`t see it

[Apollos]

No problem. I have plenty of more content to post over time that you can jump into at a later time to share your thoughts.

Haha I sure am!

[Apollos]

So what are you even placing your faith in?

[wordman]

you must like it,this stimulates your mind,,lol

[wordman]

in god,but that don`t change facts

[Apollos]

Ok...so what facts are you referring to?

[wordman]

everything i have told you

[wordman]

and it all came from the king james bible

[wordman]

now let`s get out of the box,,what do you think about reincarnation

[wordman]

and by the way king james was gay

[Apollos]

Haha ok.

I think what we become in this earthly finite reality will be what we are for the rest of eternity.
Given that, I don’t believe God allows human souls to get recycled into different existences to then eventually reach a state of Nirvana.

Since you asked the question, I’m assuming you have some thoughts on the matter. Feel free to share.

[wordman]

i think we have to to reach that place we need to be to find god,i love edgar cayce,i`ve read tesla,einstein,plato,josephs and others,they all believe in reincarnation

[wordman]

this could be our second chance from a loving god

[Apollos]

So how will you be “you” if you’re living a different existence?

Is not our 2nd chance God sending Jesus to die?

[wordman]

i don`t believe god wants to kill us,jesus died because we was forced to be born in sin