Suicidal Savior

This piece touches, philosophically, upon just one of the many Man-Made Doctrines Taught as Profound Truths by the Church, a Doctrine that does not exist, no is it to be found as stated in the Bible.

Suicidal Savior

Written By Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham

Copyright © 2013 Marvin Thomas Cox

DBA: Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham

All Rights Reserved

If I were to kill myself,

I would burn in hell,

for a million years,

drown in a million tears,

of sorrow unchanging ...

This doctrine of suicide,

such as taught by churches,

who never ask as to why,

never question this lie,

or whence it came to be so ...

Have you yet asked to see,

where in the good book,

and upon what pages,

in such eternal rages,

were these words spoken?

It is only a doctrine of men,

words never to be found,

nor did they ever exist,

except as tactics of fist,

from Inquisitions past ...

Fear was Church power,

convert or die was the cry,

sinner endure the pain,

in Jesus Christ's name,

or burn in hell forevermore …

If you should kill yourself,

a new convert will be lost,

your pain is much gain,

always in Jesus' name,

His Church must prevail ...

Yet the Jews at Masada,

men, women, and children,

gladly met their deaths,

suicide taking their breaths,

before blaspheming HaShem ...¹

Choosing death over dishonor,

one right over many wrongs,

they knew nothing of hell,

if true, Torah would tell,

but of this it spoke not a word ...

And in days of the old west,

it was taught that it was best,

a white woman to be captured,

by Indians and savagely violated,

kill herself with no thought of hell ...

And even the Hebrew man Jesus,

went willingly to the cross,

having power in his last breath,

to prevent his own death,

yet, he chose death, over living ...

I ponder the reasons as to why,

any one would choose to die --

who possessed the power to live,

yet chose death and to die:

Is such an act willful sacrifice -- or suicide?

It appears to my simple mind,

Christians serve a Suicidal Savior,

yet deny to themselves and others,

the very example that he is said --

to have set for us all ...

(Written March 22^nd, 2013)

1HaShem is Hebrew for The Name

Author's Note

Suicide Gone Askew Of Societal Taboos

Written By Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham
Copyright © 2023 Marvin Thomas Cox
DBA: Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham
All Rights Reserved

“I do not, never have of never will, advocate nor encourage the life existence terminating (as in deleting all one's files from a PC with no System Restore or Backup, or Gaming to think one possesses the option of reset or clicking on that next life's try of ever again) act of Suicide. In my viewpoint's perspective, Suicide (except for terminal illnesses wherein the pain and quality of life is not life at all's not worth the living anymore in any sense's sense of that which think of as Living) is a mistake, an error that can never be changed or altered, but IS NOT OF NEVER WAS OF NEVER HAS BEEN a Cardinal Sin, the terminology of which doth support my analytical claim that the ole RCC was, in fact the origin of infamous fame regarding those who chose death over denying their own personal beliefs (Yahweh, Allah, the God of Whatever), or simply choosing to suffer at the hands of madmen clad as clergy — no more!

Fact is and truthfully so: The Inquisition never ended (as per Cullen Murphy's, historical book: God's Jury— https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Jury-Inquisition-Making-Modern/dp/0547844581 ), is still ongoing and covert in the actual factual sense that all that has changed is the applied euphemistic name upon the properly associated door of the Vatican, wherein all prying of spying on people's behavior of beliefs continues to go on as we speak, though, thankfully at the time, we no longer hear of torture or burning one at yon stake for the sake of protecting and praising the name of a most odd fucking God who is obviously an openly active polygamist who is also into Beastiality's Zo0philia1, because He addresses The House of Judah and The House of Israel (Southern & Northern Kingdoms of Israel, similar to the north and south of the USA's Civil War that came about after the death of Solomon) as the Sheep of his pasture, rather than Human fucking Beings that is alleged He created … And, what is more intriguing, if God was Jesus and Jesus was God, then, when God committed adultery in taking (not a word is said of poor Mary being a willing sperm recipient) the Virgin Mary (a woman betrothed to another man wherein the Torah proclaims that she could and would be put to death via being stripped naked before all her community, placed in a hole to be filled in up to her waist, making escape impossible, and pummeled with stones until she was beaten, battered, and bloody to hell's dead) is said to have found herself with God (a Holy Spirit? Me thinks not!) hovered over her body in missionary fashion, and (without penetration?) inseminated her to leave her bearing the child of someone who was damn sure to hell not her husband … The laughable point of all this reality is this: God was Jesus, Jesus was God (initially an act of adultery where by both God/Jesus and Mary should have died in separate stoning holes of side by side), which relegates reality to this one and only conclusion of position: God as Jesus, Jesus as God, was fucking his own mother to be in inseminating and, thus' therefore, creating himself as the Primal Mother Fucker (the Bible is filled with such examples if one is astutely paying attention) spitting in the face of his own not yet but soon to be spermatized-egged fetal face … As such is, without any doubt's doubt, the most hilarious contrivance of Religion Is Bullshit2 ever conceived by men as Man (Man is God as God is Man) in perpetrating, orchestrating, and penetrating the minds of ignorant men who choose to not think, but salivate in sacrifice of their own individuality's minds become blind (Blind Faith: belief without true understanding, perception, or discrimination. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/blind-faith) upon the Golden Altars of their own chosen, self inseminating, Ignorance, wherein they do reside as complacent, docile, and domesticated cattle: Sheeple-People Cattle, that were once Human Beings — but are Human, no more, and are totally mind-fucked!

As for Suicide? … Can't of shan't be no more of a din's sin than that societal sin of fucking one's own Dad's wife and one's own Mother. Wherein lies the logic of sanity's reason within such conclusions that condemn those who would/could commit the act of Suicide to a Fire-n-Brimstone Hell, but fail to relegate Mother Fuckers (i.e.: God & Jesus) to the plight of suffering in ever smoldering flames of eternal night?

It is more than high time to rethink that which we have been taught and presume to assume to believe as indisputably divine (anonymous Gospel's) Truths ...” — Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham


Example Of Man is God, God is Man, Fucking The Sheep Of His Pasture



(Written August 19th, 2023)

Reviews

[ProphetsMother]

Damn my mans you have so eloquently tackled a thought I would not be able to.. major applause!! And major praise to this work of art. I'm impressed and comforted at the logic and grace you showed in this. And the poetry is simple and stunning. I love it!! You seem to be a true believer which is so hard to find. I will certainly read more as you have much to share and enlighten me with. Thank you for posting this!!

[ProphetsMother]

I, too, love to scrutinize the prophets. I don't think it should be considered blasphemy either and I think the real prophets would openly and gladly welcome your work.

[Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham]

ProphetsMother,

Thank you for reading and understanding ...

I am an EX-Minister, an old fart of a Preacher whose studies has taught him well the tools that Organized Religion makes use of in saddling the common masses of laypeople for riding for tall they are worth in sucking them dry of tithes and offerings ... I am a Deist and an opponent and adversary of Organized Religion, though I do and shall always respect, uphold, and defend the right of religious belief and freedom of others as fellow members of our common but one Human Race ...

Marve

[ProphetsMother]

So you know the real first hand.. that's wonderful. I appreciate you breaking it down for us.

[Ken Simm.]

I think I would end my life given certain circumstances. But I would never do it at someone else's request. Nor would I involve anyone else if I could help it. Be they first responders, family or even at the behest of my religion. Which I agree in my case is not likely.
Whether I would do it for spiritual reasons I don't know. What I do know without fear of contradiction is that it would be my choice, fully and wholeheartedly. To rid others of me, perhaps. To rid myself of pain. I don't know until it comes. But definitely not because someone else requires it. Certain experiences in my life have taught me this.
An interesting and excellently argued and worded arguement here Marvin. Truly.

[Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham]

Ken,

Thanks for reading and for the most valuable supportive input. My point, held close to my heart, in writing this piece so many years ago (a point that holds true as truth to this very day), is/was/always will be that Christians all over the world have been deceived into thinking and believing that the execution of (Yahshua) Jesus — (as an EX-Minister who tells it like it is: there was --did not exist as any or — no name Jesus until 1600 due to the fact that there was no "J" in the English Language until the publication of the Authorized King James Version, but there was a "Y" sound's rendering as in Yorgenson “J”agically transformed into Jorgenson) — was some Godly Divine Sacrifice, when in fact it was not and was just Bullshit of real feces s**t spewed forth by the mouth and alleged pen of that SELF-appointed apostle Paul (the anonymously written Gospels did not arrive on scene until after the writing of Paul were circulated), when there never were ANY apostles at all to be considered as such save the two brothers of Jesus, Judas (his IDENTICAL TWIN referred to as Thomas [see the Gospel of Thomas], which is the word twin in Hebrew, and as Didymus the Greek word for twin in Greek), hiss brother James (James The Righteous, James The Just), and an associate insurrectionist & seditionist named Peter, and thus, Jesus was simply a fervently religious man who (along with his brother James) did historically wear the Breastplate & Ephod of the (Rechabite) Priesthood and did serve in the Temple until right before his execution, as per the historical works The Clementine Recognitions & Homilies, wherein these facts are stated and are stated within other historical RCC known and held works that the Church and all seminary (semen where the seeds of fool's fodder are planted: inseminated) chickenshit Preachers are fully aware of, but do not tell the Tithe and Offerings bringing Laypeople Pew Warmers about, lest their livelihoods (montly incomes paid by Intelligently-Stupid people) cease to be in that all male Jews of a particular Torah prescribed age were required to be in Jerusalem (not for Passover but) for The Feast of Unleavened Bread, and, so, quite obviously Jesus' identical twin brother was also there to obey and observe that feast, and would have been seen walking about and sharing his personal beliefs of liberating Israel and the Temple from Roman rule with all with whom he encountered and spoke with or to …

Please do see and read my articles, He's Risen, He's Risen, They Say, But True Credibility Is, &, If The Life Is In The Blood, &, A Deist's Perspective: Deception Is A Harlot's Face Smiling …

The clencher of clenched and grinding teeth of truth is this fact wherein all dumb-a*s Xtians are deceived into believing an outright Bullshit's s**t of a lie allegedly spoken/written by that master-baiter liar called Paul:

I Cor 5:7b KJV — … For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us …

Any damn food who actually knows The (Law) Torah of Moses, knows implicitly that Passover is not/never was/never shall be a sacrifice (the poor Passover lamb was but a to be roasted & served up meal & not a damn thing holy or sacred as sacrificial), but was a required act of obedience for all the people's citizens of the nation of Israel, beginning in Egypt (allegedly) and to be observed as a memorial at the same time every year thereafter, right up to the death of said Jesus, and to this very day. Point being, that while Israelites enjoyed a fine meal within the security of their homes in safety and without fear, the poor Egyptians were said to be facing the death of every first born child, including Pharaoh so it is allegedly said in the Tanakh (Old Testament) …

There f*****g for: Jesus' execution was NEVER any sort of a sacrifice, whatsoever of at all of any day's way of any year or shed tear of a monk who is drunk on the sheer stupidity that he has been taught by liars and thieves known as Organized Religion!

And so, to paint the picture that has Jesus intentionally and willingly going to Jerusalem to face (knowing?) his own execution as a sacrifice for the (sins?) of the world is absolute malarkey's con-man, flim-flam man, Grifter's grifting sure as s**t Bullshit, because, obviously said historical Jesus had no clue that he was about to be arrested, charged with sedition against the occupying Roman Empire, and executed in Rome's customary fashion of making spectacles of any and all persons who would dare to seek freedom from the clutches of the Roman Military War Machine (i.e.: The American War Machine of today?) …

But, my point being is: If he did know, Jesus would, realistically, have been a suicidal maniac and a damn fool to go to Jerusalem, knowing full well he would be arrested, beaten, tortured and nailed to a piece of s**t wood stake of a tree, and as such that final ACT of his so called sacrificial life would be: Suicide, my dear friend, Suicide, pure and unadulterated … LOL!

Please know that I have shared all of the above, not for you but, for those who truly ARE comment readers long before they ever become readers and reviewers of our work …

Marv

[jacob erin-cilberto]

I have feelings about this topic, having been raised Catholic and taught that suicide is a mortal sin and we will go to hell if we do it.
I think of many who have committed suicide and just do not believe those folks are there in that burning pit.
They were good people who just couldn't survive in this world...not that they didn't try...
but then so many Christians do not walk the walk...they talk, they judge, they condemn...
When their own back yard is so fully of contempt for others...God smiles at that? I think not.
j.

[Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham]

Inspired by the muse of your read and comment Jacob"

Suicide Gone Askew Of Societal Taboos

Written By Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham
Copyright © 2023 Marvin Thomas Cox
DBA: Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham
All Rights Reserved

I do not, never have of never will, advocate nor encourage the life existence terminating (as in deleting all one's files from a PC with no System Restore or Backup, or Gaming to think one possesses the option of reset or clicking on that next life's try of ever again) act of Suicide. In my viewpoint's perspective, Suicide (except for terminal illnesses wherein the pain and quality of life is not life at all's not worth the living anymore in any sense's sense of that which think of as Living) is a mistake, an error that can never be changed or altered, but IS NOT OF NEVER WAS OF NEVER HAS BEEN a Cardinal Sin, the terminology of which doth support my analytical claim that the ole RCC was, in fact the origin of infamous fame regarding those who chose death over denying their own personal beliefs (Yahweh, Allah, the God of Whatever), or simply choosing to suffer at the hands of madmen clad as clergy — no more!

Fact is and truthfully so: The Inquisition never ended (as per Cullen Murphy's, historical book: God's Jury— https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Jury-Inquisition-Making-Modern/dp/0547844581 ), is still ongoing and covert in the actual factual sense that all that has changed is the applied euphemistic name upon the properly associated door of the Vatican, wherein all prying of spying on people's behavior of beliefs continues to go on as we speak, though, thankfully at the time, we no longer hear of torture or burning one at yon stake for the sake of protecting and praising the name of a most odd f*****g God who is obviously an openly active polygamist who is also into Beastiality's Zo0philia1, because He addresses The House of Judah and The House of Israel (Southern & Northern Kingdoms of Israel, similar to the north and south of the USA's Civil War that came about after the death of Solomon) as the Sheep of his pasture, rather than Human f*****g Beings that is alleged He created … And, what is more intriguing, if God was Jesus and Jesus was God, then, when God committed adultery in taking (not a word is said of poor Mary being a willing sperm recipient) the Virgin Mary (a woman betrothed to another man wherein the Torah proclaims that she could and would be put to death via being stripped naked before all her community, placed in a hole to be filled in up to her waist, making escape impossible, and pummeled with stones until she was beaten, battered, and bloody to hell's dead) is said to have found herself with God (a Holy Spirit? Me thinks not!) hovered over her body in missionary fashion, and (without penetration?) inseminated her to leave her bearing the child of someone who was damn sure to hell not her husband … The laughable point of all this reality is this: God was Jesus, Jesus was God (initially an act of adultery where by both God/Jesus and Mary should have died in separate stoning holes of side by side), which relegates reality to this one and only conclusion of position: God as Jesus, Jesus as God, was f*****g his own mother to be in inseminating and, thus' therefore, creating himself as the Primal Mother F****r (the Bible is filled with such examples if one is astutely paying attention) spitting in the face of his own not yet but soon to be spermatized-egged fetal face … As such is, without any doubt's doubt, the most hilarious contrivance of Religion Is Bullshit2 ever conceived by men as Man (Man is God as God is Man) in perpetrating, orchestrating, and penetrating the minds of ignorant men who choose to not think, but salivate in sacrifice of their own individuality's minds become blind (Blind Faith: belief without true understanding, perception, or discrimination. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/blind-faith) upon the Golden Altars of their own chosen, self inseminating, Ignorance, wherein they do reside as complacent, docile, and domesticated cattle: Sheeple-People Cattle, that were once Human Beings — but are Human, no more, and are totally mind-fucked!

As for Suicide? … Can't of shan't be no more of a din's sin than that societal sin of f*****g one's own Dad's wife and one's own Mother. Wherein lies the logic of sanity's reason within such conclusions that condemn those who would/could commit the act of Suicide to a Fire-n-Brimstone Hell, but fail to relegate Mother Fuckers (i.e.: God & Jesus) to the plight of suffering in ever smoldering flames of eternal night? It is more than high time to rethink that which we have taught and presume to assume to believe as indisputably divine (anonymous Gospel's) Truths ...” — Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham






(Written August 19th, 2023)