Goodness of a god who creates evil ? ...

The problem many have trouble with, but reading your bible would explain, if you did ...

Does God create 'ill-fortune' ? ... Is it that God creates ills as fortune ... how can it be by chance or 'fortune' if God creates it ... it is surely not by chance at all if God does it , but God creates it. Himself , as He freely admits .. thus scripture is indeed saying that God creates ills on men , which is no different than creating evil. there is no difference between ills and evil and badness ... they all amount to the same thing, an excessive destruction of something [where God alone defies what is needed, what is excessive] ... thus in the end men will see that God used evil only for good in the end , the glorying of all the creation in Him because He showed us all that love is the only way, and let us prove that the other ways we come up with do in fact fail, that sin is bad because it simply doesn't work , doesn't benefit everyone , but is simply exploiting of many for the benefit of the few

Now God destroys the whole earth and heavens eventually , once His purpose in it is over, killing billions of people.... now that is an ill of great magnitude, people will see it as evil, as bad, but God means it for good in the end ... but He really does create this evil on almost all men, very few are translated before the end of this world, few find the narrow strait way , and even they are chastened with evils, tried by bad unjust things happening to them to perfect their love, just as Jesus was tried and they follow him in that baptism of 'fire' ... precious trial of given faith ...

God used Satan as the 'evil spirit' and tempter of man, thus no evil or wicked thing proceeded directly from God.

Satan surely is the only one who tempts men to do evil, but god alone creates the means to do evil ... it is not Satan who hardens Pharoah's heart , it is not Satan who fails to give all truth to all men now so they can resist Satan... evil or badness is not an object, it is created by providing the means and the temptation to use it... It is God who provides both and thus creates evil or badness or ills , just as He says He does

You, Ben 12 and Squint are the ones that have to live with your assertions that God is evil. I personally believe that God is good, noble and pure and that we are to strive to be like Him with the help of His presence in our lives.

I quite agree with you, God is good , noble, and pure ... i actually resent your false assertion about what I believe, you have no place to say what I believe and get it wrong because you never even asked ....

God is the epitome of good-ness , even using evil or bad for good in the end, using it to perfect love in Jesus and the saints, using it to humble Satan and mankind... in order to save all men from what He requires us to go through for His purpose ... proving that there is no other way than love by giving Satan this earth to try the other ways than love , and to fail to find any one which works... so we have excessive destruction simply because God wants it proved by creation that not only is He right [proved by Jesus, the right-hand 'covering cherub at the throne of God ], but also that His way has no alternative that works 'long-term' [as proved by Satan, the left-hand 'covering cherub]

Thus there are only two cherubs covering the whole power of God's throne, working together to prove not only that god is right bit that there is no other god worthy of the name , no alternative to God's law of love ...His truth that eternity can only be reached by perfection of love :-

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

So ,in the end there is no evil , all creation including Satan in the end , accepts Jesus' commandment as lord , to love ...

Revelation 5:13 And, every created thing which was in heaven, and upon the earth, and under the earth, and upon the sea, and, all the things in them, heard I, saying�"Unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honour, and the glory, and the dominion, unto the ages of ages!

Satan, unlike Logos that became Jesus, is thus a created being , and certainly, by Jesus' own words here, does come to accept Jesus as Lord and so receive mercy in the end ... but first God must humble Satan and mankind from belief in sin , in unloving ways , turn all creation to respecting only love and ceasing to sin.... the first step is to cast Satan into the earth as a man and for him to die , just as the other cherub died as a man :-

Ezekiel 10:14 And four faces had each one,�"the first face, was the face of a cherub, and,the second face, was the face of a man and the third was the face of a lion. and the fourth, was the face of an eagle.

Ezekiel 28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.

This then is the hook in Satan's jaw set by God, his snare ... that the world will do din, treat him as lord, worship his image of a god and saviour [Rev 13:3-8] and yet God will show him he is not a god at all, though almost all the world worships his ways of evil... and does not turn to perfect love [bar just 144,000 saints out of over ten billion people and a few 'friends of God', elders of Israel ]

Thus half the power of God goes into creating evil in this world, just as half goes into the righteousness of the new earth and heavens , there is only one part in a million of good in this world and a similar amount perhaps of evil in the new earth to trial the saints of the new earth in perfection of their love

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison

Thus all the evil of this world and the less of the new earth, is directed at good , and both together are solely for God's GOOD purpose of establishing by creation that He is right, that He is the ONLY true god , by love alone... by the truth that love is in fact, in reality, the only way, that sin fails ...

Psalms 139:12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

There are two messages from God then , by His two cherubs, different messages, but together they say that God is God by right of goodness of love ... neither one alone is enough, God has to show not only that He is right, but also to show that He is the ONLY one who is right... this God requires BOTH darkness and light for His full light to shine to all in the end , when all creation accepts Him alone as God , having finally rejected Satan as lord and ceased to sin...

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