The three heavens and two earths of your bible ...

The three heavens and two earths of your bible ...

A Chapter by stranger-n-life
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... what has love and money to do with this ?

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Genesis is indeed fascinating , try for instance exploring the possible alternative translations of the words which most bibles do not reflect ... Genesis does not in fact have to be the beginning of the world [and at only nearly 6 millenia ago the evidence from science is completely against that idea ]

The beginning of large civilisations in the 'fertile crescent' seems to correspond more closely with the scriptural timing , thus the word rendered 'create' actually is better translated as 'prepare' which is far more in line with the major re-ordering of the world that made corruption possible in mankind to achieve God's purpose in the earth [the humbling of Satan, of the vain desire in men to live by taking more than one gives ]

God's only 'vested interest' in the world is as-it-were to show all creation that He is right , that love is the ONLY way ... this then entails men not knowing this for sure and trying out other ways that seem easier but end in catastrophe , tribulation...

Men, like animals simply could not live inefficiently until we made civilisation ... only through such things a the formal money system, where men can rob one another without even interacting with them, could corruption even begin to seem a viable alternative to an efficient communal lifestyle

see this link to understand how corrupt our money system is and how it simply must fail sometime [soon!] :-

http://tinyurl.com/2uoexg

Equally , God says there is only one flood and that the end of this earth will be with a flood [of people, not water] ... there is no evidence of a historic flood , all floods of water have been local affairs ...

Even melting the ice caps ,as we are attempting hard to do today , does not produce enough water to cover all the land ... so look at the symbolic meanings which abound and are explained elsewhere in scripture , in fact consistently throughout scripture ... the earth after the flood then becomes the new earth of scripture, the ark is the translation to spirit of the 144,000 which is their way of reaching the new earth [whereas all sinners reach it by being freed from sin in death and the second resurrection] ...

The raven is Satan who brings nothing back , fails in his bid to be the god of men, the dove is Jesus returning with the remnant of Israel [sprig of olive tree] ... as scripture explains, it is written as 'parables' , in symbols, but the key to the symbols is written here and there, all over the place in scripture ... one has to read or search it all to find the meaning of every symbol... then one sees it all has but one message, expressed many ways, that love will show that it works and that no other way works ... clearly most men still don't accept that yet , scripture says they will, that is the very name [role] of Jesus [Yeshua] ,the Messiah of Israel first, who then saves the whole creation in his kingdom come [as we pray for in the Lord's prayer] :-

Revelation 5:13 And, every created thing which was in heaven, and upon the earth, and under the earth, and upon the sea, and, all the things in them, heard I, saying�"Unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honour, and the glory, and the dominion, unto the ages of ages!

So there is a first heavens and earth which is given almost completely to Satan [Rev 13:3-8] < Jesus redeeming but 144,000 saints [Rev 7:3-8] whom God seals into becoming sinless [2 Timothy 2:19 ] ,being thus perfected in love by trial of faith in this life ... that is about one in a million people only ...

But Jesus says that the many will be saved, just that they will be saved later [Rev 7:9-10] , so the broad way through destruction in death is the main highway of salvation, not the grace offered only to the House of Israel and the House of Judah [Heb 8:8-12] ... one should not be surprised that almost all men have this wrong , you will soon see why , God requires men to worship Satan's created image of a god and a christ simply to get Satan to confess his blasphemy [2Thess 2:4] , thus God Himself sends the delusion into most men , creates the 'vessels of dishonour' of this world , in order that Satan be snared first , beginning his humbling to coming to see he is no god at all

Ezekiel 28:9 Wilt thou really say, God, am I, before him who is slaying thee; When, thou, art a man and not a God, in the hand of them who are piercing h thee?
The point then is that it glorifies God that Satan can find no way to be a god except to come to love in the end [for Satan, unlike Jesus [John 1:1], is a created being , see Revelation 5:13 ,above quoted]

Thus we move on to a new heavens, but note there s a new earth too ... a physical reality separate from the spiritual one of God, but God can live with [in] men because men are righteous in the new earth, whereas God ceased even to live with Israel in this reality because of their unrighteousness... God then stands for love in men :-

2 Peter 3:13 But, new heavens, and a new earth, according to his promise, are we expecting, wherein, righteousness, is to dwell.

1 John 4:8 He that doth not love, doth not understand God, because, God, is, love.
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1 John 4:16 And, we, have come to understand and to trust the love which, God, hath, in us. God, is, love; and, he that abideth in love, in God, abideth, and, God, in him abideth.
Thus note that the third heaven, mentioned by St Paul, has no third earth, it is the 'final rest' in the spirit , the paradise of God where the 'tree of life', immortality, exists for all ...

There are but two physical realities then , and men can only die twice before death is denied them in their final trial of other ways than love [the lake of 'fire' from God ... 'fire' simply represents the effect of God's truth in bringing men to accept love as the only way, it is simply the fact that no other way works and thus other ways bring suffering and pain ... God also tries those who would perfect their love with the same fire of His truth :-

Revelation 3:19 I, as many as I tenderly love, I convict and put under discipline: be zealous, therefore, and repent.

1 Peter 1:7 In order that the proving of your faith�"much more precious than of gold that perisheth even though, by means of fire, it is proved�"may be found unto praise and glory and honour in the revealing of Jesus Christ,�"

2 Corinthians 12:2 I know a man in Christ, who, fourteen years ago, whether in the body, I know not, or out of the body, I know not, God, knoweth, such a one as this, caught away, as far as the third heaven;
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4 How that he was caught away into paradise, and heard unspeakable things, which it is not allowable for a man to utter:
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